Sep 09 2008

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Debating Creation

Posted at 9:25 pm under Uncategorized

Seems a lot of Evolutionairyists have been stopping by and commenting.

I am not afraid of a debate.  I just wish they would be a little nicer.  But I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.

216 responses so far

216 Responses to “Debating Creation”

  1. Joshon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:18 am 1

    Just pointing out – by having the google ads on your right side, you’re providing fantastic links for passers-by to your site to click and buy Spore online! Talk about hypocrisy. Take down the ads if you want anybody to take you seriously. And for promoting Christian values, you sure do post a lot of the “Spore porn”.

  2. Jesuson 10 Sep 2008 at 2:25 am 2

    Yo dude.
    I’m back from the grave and like man yo dude just smoke some weed and shit will be good.

    You believe what you want man. It’s wrong but you can believe what you want.

    Peace out, brother.

  3. Taleron 10 Sep 2008 at 2:27 am 3

    You do realize that Spore teaches creationism and not evolution right?

  4. davidon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:31 am 4

    i know, right? people fly off the handle in the face of the truth, letting their ignorant pride force them to lash out at the people trying to show them the way, instead of just accepting what, deep down, they know is the truth.

    who, in this day and age, would dispute evolution?

  5. Lewison 10 Sep 2008 at 2:33 am 5

    If God made the earth in 7 days what’s with all the dinosaurs?

    The sad thing is is that close minded people follow the bible like it was some sort of instruction manual to life instead of a general guide. You sir did not read the bible correctly! You read it like a small child in a literal sense.

  6. Ben Harrison 10 Sep 2008 at 2:45 am 6

    I’ll be nice, let’s debate.

  7. Paustinjon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:47 am 7

    Well aren’t you all knowing? Also the word is “Evolutionists”. Evolutionairyists isn’t a word.

  8. TheMagnificen7on 10 Sep 2008 at 2:47 am 8

    I point to your comment on another post, where you said that someone was so misguided, you would pray for them. It seems to me that is a diversion, a response made when you know you have no response. Nobody knows that they are wrong, they think that they are right. Like you, like me. Unfortunately, I have debates and responses that make sense, and you don’t. There is absolutely NOTHING you could say that convince me that I am wrong. Excuse me for being a little rude, but this is a hot topic, very dear to me.

    The Evolutionary Process is the reason that I, like everything else on this planet and in the universe, including yourself, exist. I find that to be incredibly important and will defend it if some zealot decides to try and water that down.

  9. Nancy Diahreeon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:48 am 9

    yo dude this is hilarious! i love the serious-joke quality of your site! it really reminds me that america IS a 3rd world, 3rd rate, 3rd class slum, which nobody recognizes! well done! and kill all the creationists! awesome!

  10. Stevenon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:49 am 10

    I’m sorry but I refuse to debate with anyone who can’t form any better English than “Stupid Computer Terms”

  11. Godon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:50 am 11

    Get a life my child.

  12. Davidon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:51 am 12

    You, sir, are an idiot.

  13. Predatorianon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:53 am 13

    This game is less about evolution and more about being God yourself.

    I mean, think of it this way, in this game evolution is NOT by random chance. Its by a sentient, intelligent, and thinking individual…ie You.

    Regardless though, its a frickin video game. Even if it was all pro evolution, don’t buy it, plan and simple. What your technically doing is forcing your religious beliefs on others.

    Atheists exist, we are not going anywhere, so let us have our stuff because ultimately, we are the ones who will buy it.

    As for the Spore Porn, welcome to humanity, since this surprises you I’ll assume you’re new. Come this way, I’ve got LOADS more to show you.

  14. WGSXFrankon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:55 am 14

    “I am not afraid of a debate. I just wish they would be a little nicer. But I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.”

    You do realize that you’re saying you’re not afraid to defend your views… yet people who are wrong get defensive?

    In other words, you very well could be saying that you’re wrong. After all, you’re being awfully defensive as well, correct?

  15. Stephenon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:57 am 15

    I’m going to disagree with you on this. You say these commenters are wrong but offer no proof. This entire post is about the difference between belief and knowledge.

    Unless you are Christ, himself, there is no way for you to know that evolution is wrong. There is also no way to prove creationism is wrong. You believe in Creationism. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. You base your belief off of your belief in a supreme being, a God. Personally I belive in God, but guess what, I also believe in evolution. Why do people assume that the creation of the earth happened in seven of earth’s days. To God, seven days may mean seven cycles of the big bang. How do you know that the millions and millions of years were not merely God creating the different animals, and removing those he did not see fit (ie. dinosaurs) until on the sixth day he created man.

  16. Xbudzon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:58 am 16

    Obviously you get pretty defensive, you don’t even allow comments that disagree with you.

  17. Rusty Shacklefordon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:04 am 17

    If you’ve got the time, and aren’t the complete religious fanatic I’m seeing you are, check out http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

    Maybe one day you’ll realize that this god you hide behind is just a way to cover your fear of all the bad things in life. Grow up and learn to stand on your own two feet in this world. No guiding hand, nor divine thought will lessen the creeping death I hope you meet violently one day.

  18. Scabson 10 Sep 2008 at 3:04 am 18

    Sarah Palin for president!

  19. Riddleson 10 Sep 2008 at 3:06 am 19

    There is no such thing as an “evolutionairyist”, its not a belief system or anything, no more than believing other scientific theories makes you a “gravityist” or a “aeroairyist”

    Anyways, I call Poe on this entire website, its got to be a joke

  20. AgnostNickon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:07 am 20

    Evolution aside, it might prove prudent to do a little more research about this game before making baseless accusations about the content, developers and publisher. This game does not simulate true evolution, it actually facilitates a blend of evolution and intelligent design, where the player acts as the designer. It is this player input that has created many of the “Sporn” creatures that you are justified in condemning in a video game rated E for Everyone. The game automatically downloads creatures that other people around the globe have created (some with much less strict customs when dealing with sexual imagery), but there is an option to only download creatures from trusted friends. So as long as parents take an active role in what their children are playing, they will never ever see this creatures. It is also unfair to condemn EA and its employees for creatures that they had no hand in creating.

    Now let’s talk about you for a second. It is awfully presumptuous to think that your blog had anything to do with the slight drop in EA’s stock. The most probable reason for the drop in EA’s stock price is the delay of the Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince video until next summer so that is can release with the movie. It is also presumptuous to claim that scientists are wrong about the mechanism by which all life has come to be as they are today.

    At this point I have no interest in an atheist vs. theist debate. There is no winner in such a debate, because I can no more disprove the existance of a super natural being than you can prove that it does exist, let alone that this entity is the Christian/Hebrew/Islamic god.

  21. Sidon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:12 am 21

    isn’t this game promoting intelligent design? The game is making the player the intelligent designer.

  22. Jezebelon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:12 am 22

    You seem pretty defensive right now – what does that indicate??

    If you could provide a rational argument for why this game is wrong I’m all ears but seeing as how you seem to be against rational thought i.e. evolution, this conversation would go nowhere.

    This game is great at providing quality entertainment and education – teaching individuals about evolution and it’s progression over the centuries.

    The photos you have included on your website only show the toons that “immature” individuals have created, and although entertaining (IMO), are not representative of the huge scope of toons that can be created via this game.

  23. Ford Prefecton 10 Sep 2008 at 3:20 am 23

    If they aren’t nice to you, this is mostly due to the fact that the point of view you take on this site is so extreme that it can easily be considered as satire. So the people comment also satirically caricaturing their point of view just as you do: Irrefutable and and insulting (yes you are insulting. Read your last sentence – your writing as if you were some better, more intelligent individual than the rest of us).

    I’m not saying you’re wrong – nor you’re right. I’m just challenging the way you present your optinion.

  24. lolwuton 10 Sep 2008 at 3:21 am 24

    You do seem afraid a debate though. You haven’t debated anything, only told us that we’re wrong without pointing why we’re wrong or putting up evidence of why you’re right.

  25. Andrewon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:22 am 25

    whats the point of a debate when you think you have already won? who wants to debate peacefully with someone who is unwilling to listen to the other side? instead of labeling them as wrong. believe what you believe and tell them that. but also respect their beliefs as well.

  26. Andrewon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:23 am 26

    oh, and its evolutionists, not evolutionaryists.

    at least try to sound intelligent

  27. Harlequeenon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:24 am 27

    Yes, after all we all know that it was created by the Coyote.

  28. Matthewon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:28 am 28

    Creationism and evolution aren’t mutually exclusive.

  29. Mark Pruitton 10 Sep 2008 at 3:32 am 29

    The theory of evolution has been proven to be FACT, bro.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact

    Try reading your internet sometime ok?

  30. Lanceon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:34 am 30

    Don’t you think it’s fairly irresponsible to ask for fair debate when the admin is making comments like “But I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.” You’re practically shutting the door to any logical debate right there with a blanket declaration of ignorance.

  31. SAGEon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:34 am 31

    FUCKING DIE YOU CHRISTFAG! THERE IS NO GOD. THIS GAME IS COMPLETELY REALISTIC AND SHOULD BE CELEBRATED

    P.S. SAGE GOES IN EVERY FIELD!!

  32. Grammeron 10 Sep 2008 at 3:38 am 32

    You can’t even spell the word evolutionists.

  33. anonymooseon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:39 am 33

    I’m agnostic, I’ll just get that out of the way. I care neither way. Even with proof for or against I doubt it would make a huge impact on my life.

    I am more interested in the psychology of believing and not believing, really. I can understand why you believe. For one you were probably brought up that way, so it is as natural as breathing. God and religion give you comfort and a sense of reason to the world. But why does EA’s game threaten that?

    A game about evolution (in a fictional universe) is of no concern, surely? It seems rather insecure in your beliefs to be on the warpath about a game that you can simply tell your child that they cannot play.

    It is rather arrogant to declare everyone who disagrees with your point of view “wrong”. They simply see things differently. I doubt many of the people who have commented are great fans of evolution, either. People who do not worship a God are not necessarily in league with Darwin and his theories.

    Your views, especially if they seem radical, will always be open to abuse and ridicule on the internet though. Many people would simply walk on by if you were preaching this on the street, but on the internet you are fair game. Do not take it personally, or as an attack against God. Many will just feel you’re being a bit extreme, so in return they come with the same attitude.

    I shall stop rambling on now.

  34. Roflon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:39 am 34

    You’re dumb. You have yet to prove ANY of the people that have commented as wrong. In fact, everything that people have been saying is completely TRUE. There is nothing that EA is doing that has been insulting to ANYONE with Spore. Remember this post you made about people creating monsters with penises?
    “Will Wright could have created technology to block such things but clearly he has not.”
    No. Will Wright can not create technology to block anything resembling a penis. In fact, I don’t even think it’s possible to unless you restrict people to certain shapes and forms that the monsters can take, which would take out the whole point of the game.
    Also, someone also mentioned something about Play-Doh. Would you consider play-doh anti-Christian? You can make a penis monster out of play-doh. You can make demons out of play-doh. You can make anything out of play-doh. What are you going to do about prevent your child from creating a penis-demon out of play-doh? There is no technology to prevent that, and I don’t see any sort of Mature rating on play-doh. I’m willing to bet that there are numerous other toys that can create all sorts of penis-demons, so have fun creating a website for all of them.

    I’m not being defensive about anything, I’m just stating the facts. Please prove us wrong. I’m open for debate.

  35. Ledniron 10 Sep 2008 at 3:41 am 35

    Unfortunately the method of evolution in spore is not the actual (Darwinian) hypothesis. Also it’s unlikely that strongly opinionated and coherent arguments will pass through moderation by a creationist admin, though perhaps that’s just my own prejudice talking.

  36. Larryon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:42 am 36

    By writing that last sentence, you’re pretty much giving non-religious people a reason to be mean. You pretty much just insulted them.
    I have a question. You know how we get the flu shot every year? it’s to combat the flu virus. why do we need it every year? it’s because each year, new strains form from the old ones to counter our flu shot. In order to to do this, the virus changes the way it looks and acts. This, is undeniable proof of Evolution. It’s the process all life on the planet use in order become better then whatever is attacking it at the time. If there was no such thing as evolution, and we were all created in Gods image, then each and every one of us would look identical in every single way, and act the same in every single way. Life would be boring and stagnant.

  37. Jameson 10 Sep 2008 at 3:45 am 37

    I’ve done this to another one. You can’t prove your right, you cant say, GOD PUT THEM THERE, because, we dont know, the only logical explination is, we came from a peice of matter, evelution has even left parts on us, chop off your little toe, it’ll hurt yes, but you dont need it for balance like we used too. Your just in minded, you cant take views from others, why not accept it, your a fucking animal at heart. You’ve even proved it in your post, please, in a nice sarcstic way of doing, go kill yourself, if your in heaven with god, then GG to you sir, but if not, have fun knowing your wrong. Because nobodys right till we know for sure and right now, we dont know we’re sure.

  38. LOLZon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:45 am 38

    “We” are not wrong… There is scientific evidence to support the idea of evolution. In fact there is a rather large amount of support for it. What is your take on the idea…don’t tell me you are one of those crazy creationists..

  39. Mr Christoon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:46 am 39

    Then how’s about some debate, instead of responses like “I am sorry you are so misguided. I will pray for you tonight.” ? Next you’ll be saying “I know you are, but what am I??”

  40. bangsingon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:46 am 40

    The same thing can be said to you?
    You are defensive spreading some lies about god.

    Why does God let good people suffer?

  41. LOLOLon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:46 am 41

    Jesus plays Spore. Its official.
    And now due to WiFi conections he can play with Satan all the way in hell!!!

  42. AthiestArmadaon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:47 am 42

    Find proof that the theory of evolution is false and post it here.

    I want a good laugh.

  43. Killian Kalthorneon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:47 am 43

    I go by empirical evidence and there is more raw evidence of evolution being the way things work. I mean, take a look at viruses and germs for examples of micro-evolution. If Creationism was the rule of law we wouldn’t need to make better medicines and antibiotics, because viruses and germs would not evolve resistances to older medicines. macro-evolution is a trickier thing since that may take millions of years to happen and it is very subtle.

    Creationism on the other hand only has the Bible to back it up. That may be alright for some people, such as yourself, Mr. Admin, but it isn’t for me. I don’t put much value in a book that has been translated, mistranslated, and so on over the span of 2000+ years whose original authors didn’t even know what causes lightning or the fact that the Earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around.

    Lastly many evolutionist are against Spore because, in their mind, it promotes Intelligent Design, which is a by-product of Creationism. After all it is the player who designs the critter and pushes it down certain paths of its development. Personally, I just see it as a game. No more and no less.

  44. Stanon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:48 am 44

    If you want evolutionists to be a little nice, perhaps you should start from a less hostile position. Firstly, spell evolutionist correctly, don’t come off as an illiterate jackass if you want to have a reasonable debate. Of course it seems clear to me that your mind is made up on the subject of evolution and thus no debate would be worthwhile.

    Here’s a little thing about Spore that you may not realize. Its really not a game about evolution, and in fact (aside from the obscene creatures made by users) it is a game of intelligent design. The player very much takes on the role of an intelligent designer and is not “evolving” the creatures at all. Will Wright himself even concedes that point here http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2008-09-08-spore_qa_N.htm. To say otherwise points out a glaring misunderstanding of the concept of evolution.

  45. Sparticuson 10 Sep 2008 at 3:48 am 45

    The facts are available. It is up to you to seek them out. There is no debate on this issue. Do some research on fossils and DNA.

  46. Utwollon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:49 am 46

    You’re an arrogant one, aren’t you? I’m sure you’re familiar with the phrase “Pride comes before the fall.”

  47. Epictodamaxyoon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:51 am 47

    Epic troll is epic.

  48. Court Barberon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:52 am 48

    Before I begin I wish to let you know I have no intention of ‘jumping down your throat’ per-say, I simply want to understand, I am curious. At this point I am in absolute awe, simply dumbfounded, at the nature of this website.

    In your post you state that you “understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.” What compelling evidence did you provide to cause them to begin arguing defensively? Do you simply believe you are right, regardless of evidence? As I stated, I am simply trying to understand, I am looking for an explanation. Thank you.

  49. Andrewon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:53 am 49

    You are the stupidest person I’ve ever not seen.

  50. Jon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:57 am 50

    Well, all religion is a hoax… and anyone who believes in anything to do with it is just naive about everything. Especially when one criticizes evolution, which is a proven scientific fact.

  51. AmusedPaganon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:58 am 51

    Look, anyone who has issues with this game has no inner child, and I pity them. EA is not “attacking” Christians or your values. It’s merely a video game. Everyone has the right to entertain themselves, and if I want to buy an “inappropriate” game and play it, that’s my own damned business. And it isn’t your place to tell me or anyone else otherwise. Look, I’m sorry if your child may have made a creature in Spore look offensive in some way, but that is your problem, not anyone else’s. So, where do you come off telling people what is and is not right for them or their children? So why don’t you get down off your high-horse and stop telling people what they should believe. If I think my child could play this game with no issues, than I am going to allow my children to play it. And you aren’t going to tell me otherwise. And I’ll be damned if you tell me I’d be a bad parent for doing so. As for the whole “creation v.s. evolution” issue, isn’t it getting old? I certainly don’t care, and I’m more than certain that I’m not the only person who is sleeping well at night not caring about the issue. It doesn’t matter whether or not our universe was created or it evolved. We weren’t there to witness it, so why don’t we just leave it alone? I think we all would be better off without the never-ending debates about everyone’s theories behind the questions that we don’t know the answers to. Believe what you will, but don’t push your beliefs onto others who don’t wanna hear about it. So, why don’t you chill out and lighten up so you can enjoy the things that are meant to be fun. Have you played Spore? I wouldn’t be so quick to judge the game until you’ve played it.

  52. Orson Beanon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:00 am 52

    Don’t expect to have a civil debate when you’re so insulting to your dissenters right off the bat.

  53. nighton 10 Sep 2008 at 4:04 am 53

    who was the one that avoided debate in the first post by blowing people of with

    i dont even want to finish that sentence cause i know that itll fall ond eaf ears. if you really wanted to have a discussion – you created the very platfom for this and when someone tried to engage you in debate you called him misguided and blew him of. great way of showing willigness to discuss.

    “the pot calling the cattle black” is the fitting english wording, yes?

  54. JCon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:07 am 54

    ROFL

    See website of above.
    Also spore is more IT the evolution.
    and yes we all know it’s a computer game and such a system would never happen…

  55. 4chanbon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:08 am 55

    Didnt you get the memo?

    The one that said that told all of us who can read that we can start using religious litterature as toilet paper… I mean, COMOOON!! Ol’ Epicurus sent it to all of us back in 33 A.D.!!

    Sheeesh, get that kid a history book or something or hes gonna end up as slow as you.

  56. scotton 10 Sep 2008 at 4:08 am 56

    So, you say your son asked you to buy this game. Did he not ask you to buy him Pokemon? Because that is an entire game about “evolving” your creatures through different stages, eventually to their final form. That is clearly a Japanese push towards teaching people about the “benefit” of evolution as your creatures gain more power each time they evolve. Did you not buy him any version of this game? If so, I am impressed. They were once the most popular game for children and adults alike, and are still one of the biggest franchises known to video games.
    You say this is a program, Spore, used to create pornography with human-esque animals evolved from spores. So should we all get rid of MS Paint? Photoshop? You could use either to draw your own pornography, or with Photoshop you can pull deep layers out of a picture and nearly remove all traces of clothing.
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/400249/photoshop_x_ray_trick_see_through_clothes/
    Also, they show this online! for anyone to watch. Should we get rid of metacafe and the ilk such as youtube? The same site you are using to show people the horrors of Spore? Other commenters have brought up very valid points as well. I can create a black, phallus shape out of legos, or a more realistic one out of Play-Do. I could draw up some violent or pornographic images using a pencil and paper, even chalk and on a flat rock. It is not the medium that is bad, it is the user’s intent, and I believe EA works very hard to filter out any offensive creatures from the online content. You open a floodgate when you start wanting to ban things like video games, especially when you haven’t even played them.
    Do not judge the people who make it either, because you are not God. You can not say whether they are “evil” or not. I am fairly certain it talks about just that in the Bible. You are doing exactly what you point out as wrong in other people.
    You should be more careful in your ideas.

  57. Alexander Milleron 10 Sep 2008 at 4:09 am 57

    Okay lets debate, where in the Bible does it say God didnt put creatures through Evolution?

    Also, why do we have proof of evolution but no proof of Jesus’s existence?

  58. John the Fishermanon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:09 am 58

    Alright, I’m calling BS on this one.

    I could just tell you that creationism has about as much proof as the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or that creationism and evolutionism are not mutually exclusive, or that people just play the game to have fun.
    That’s right: fun. Y’know, that thing you seem morally opposed to?
    Anyway, I could say those things, but they would fall on deaf ears. You are so dead-set in your beliefs that you fail to see that maybe, just maybe, others could be right.

    Look, I’m not trying to criticize your beliefs, but you’re taking it too far. You can make penises out of LEGO, Play-Doh, or in any of a hundred PC games that have been modded.

    While you are so pissed at Spore for seemingly trying to corrupt children, here’s a couple of things for you:
    Painkiller: You play as a man sent by God to kill Satan’s generals.
    Black and White: You play as God
    Age of Mythology: You use several Egyptian gods.

    I know this is a joke. I want to have a serious discussion with you, but you have to be more open-minded. Please cease this absurdity.

  59. Axlon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:14 am 59

    No, we aren’t being defensive because we know we’re wrong. We’re being defensive because you’re an extremist that’s shoving your religious faith down the throats of an entire nation that’s already entirely lost to begin with.

    If you want /us/ to be nicer, how about you don’t say that everything we believe in is entirely wrong? Then maybe we’ll all be a little more open to discussion.

    Also, you’re not very open to debate, even if you think you are. Haven’t you noticed how every one of your entries thus far can come across to those who believe in anything different than you? It’s a bit much to take, quite honestly. Again, if you want us to be nicer (or if you want anyone to debate to the point that I am thus far), then I suggest being a little (a lot) less attacking of our beliefs, and stop thinking so high of your own. I mentioned it in a previous comment, but it’s pompous, and no one will care to take you seriously if you act like that.

  60. Matton 10 Sep 2008 at 4:15 am 60

    I would like to have a friendly debate. Evolution is well supported by fossil and biological evidence. Rebuttal?

  61. Anonon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:17 am 61

    8/10, would be trolled by again.

  62. Lawrenceon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:18 am 62

    Its not really a debate persay, the only Christians who don’t believe in evolution are the ones in some of the poorer schools in America typically out toward the west of the USA right before you get to California.

    Literally none of them have even looked into it. I really don’t know how you can argue that if you mix two different dogs together that you’ll end up with something else. The USA has lead the way in genetic modification and actively does so with food and animals. The current cow that we use for milk has evolved this way to produce far more milk than the cow was ever meant to.

    Some more modern Christians often argue, that genetic manipulation is against god. That’s a reasonable stance.

    Despite there being a job field in genetic manipulation (selective evolution), even one that goes so far as into the human genome, the fact that we as the US which is where you have to be from since creationism is a thing that rose up from evangelist which is funny since your Christian and take up views from early Puritans which is the main sect of Evangelism.

    Your holding up views from a descendant of witch burners and people who believed earth was the center of the sky.

    Take a look into where your view points come from. Then take a look at the rest of the learning world.

    You are literally arguing Gravity, which is why someone like me can’t understand your view point. Evolution is an every day part of life, the USA is a forerunner in its usage. They are slowly however getting eclipsed by the Europeans because of the setbacks Christians place on laws.

    We could be curing cancer and other genetic ailments but Christians are to busy confusing their religion with others. You can’t even grasp what religion your really in. How are you going to grasp Evolutionism?

  63. Stevenon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:18 am 63

    “evolutionairyists”? I think that’s more than enough proof this site is a joke

  64. Pools Closedon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:19 am 64

    What are you 12? Evolutionairyists is not a fucking word. Maybe have a bible shoved so far up your ass prevents you from having a proper vocabulary. Evolutionists is the word you’re looking for.
    Don’t believe me?
    Search Evolutionairyists on google.
    The only thing that comes up is this stupid fucking site.

  65. Jameson 10 Sep 2008 at 4:20 am 65

    Hi there,

    I’m just interested to know why someone would go to so much effort to make an anti spore website because of their religious views, when clearly spore uses the idea of Intelligent Design as a main premise for game-play. Spore doesn’t after all try to explain our evolution, as the game obviously creates a number of different possibilities, and where it does talk about evolution it does so in an intelligently guided way (though again, I don’t think this is a comment on the nature of the world but more a game-play feature, I imagine a game that truly embraced natural selection wouldn’t be all that much fun…)

    Cheers, hope I’ve made things a little clearer for you, not everyone who makes a computer game is interested in impacting on your particular religious belief, perhaps you could try putting yourself in someone else’s shoes, and realise that the world does not revolve around you…

    James.

  66. hammondon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:28 am 66

    I wonder if you realize you are getting pretty defensive as well? I mean no offense, because everyone should believe what they wish to.

    Spore is for any age, the spore creatures being made in poor taste are being made by perverted old men. These spore creatures aren’t available to young children.

  67. Um... Yeahon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:28 am 67

    I’m Not Wrong..

  68. sickmyduckon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:29 am 68

    yeah.. guess a few of us have been stopping by, but that’s because you have now awakened the wrath of /b/.. you can only expect to see more of us in the future, raging on your shitty little site. but i guess that is what you get for being a dumb piece of shit.

  69. Foxbloodon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:31 am 69

    Do you believe you know who created the Universe and everything it?

  70. † ConservativeChristian †on 10 Sep 2008 at 4:32 am 70

    You mean like you are being with this website?
    DOHOHOHOHHOHO
    But I digress.
    God bless you.

  71. Al Lonsonon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:33 am 71

    Bring the debate on, I’ve got a lot of concrete evidence you can’t compete with. But I’ll let you start.

  72. aton 10 Sep 2008 at 4:36 am 72

    I’m glad you’re up for debate, because so am I. However, don’t discount people because they are mean. Last time I checked, Christians slaughtered thousands in the Crusades. That seems kind of angry to me, no? Some are just 15yr old children who want to get under your skin, and others are just anti-Christian because they’re jumping on a bandwagon.

    Keep in mind that everyone is passionate on both sides of this debate. Do not end comments stating that you’ll pray for someone being misguided. As a true Christian, the lowest thing you could really say to someone is to essentially inform them that they’re on the express bus to hell and you’ll pray for them. It’s the atheist equivalent of, “you’re fucking retarded.”

    I have friends who actually know scripture and can ‘prove’ me wrong in their eyes based on scripture. Simply stating “you are misguided” does not persuade anyone. Is your goal to ‘not teach evolution’ or to do your Christian duty and help everyone see the way? If it’s the latter, then your statements, posts, and replies are not doing the job.

  73. Chrison 10 Sep 2008 at 4:36 am 73

    But what did god evolve from?

    Just kidding. There is no god, and we are all dumb beasts evolved from the primordial soup.

    You jesus freaks seem to reinforce the idea of evolution even more. No god who is all knowing would ever create such a closed minded creature. Also, he would probably just make it so his presence was non-debatable, at least if it actually mattered.

    So, clearly, one of these two following things is true:
    1) There is no God.
    2) God doesn’t care if you believe in him, and therefore doesn’t care if you “sin” by not believing in him.

  74. thatguyon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:36 am 74

    i want to ask you something, if someone made a game about creationsim you would be allright huh?

  75. 4chan/bon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:38 am 75

    “I find that to be incredibly important and will defend it if some zealot decides to try and water that down.”

    Fook yaa! zealot!

  76. The Voice of Reasonon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:38 am 76

    Doesn’t spore actually promote the idea of intelligent design? Without player input, the creature would remain a simple cell.

  77. Bleachpieon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:39 am 77

    Does admin like Pokémon do you think.

    Evolutionists evolves to Evolutionairyists. Admin was the cause of this. Spread the Word.

  78. Lawrenceon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:41 am 78

    http://www.theistic-evolution.com/ Maybe this would help you out.

  79. 4chan/bon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:43 am 79

    Wait…isnt spore kind of the opposite of what you think it is mr. overlyreligiousredneckamerican? Think about it!

    A: You – the player- are the one that controls all the actions one race takes durring the entire game. You steer them out into the universe and guide them. So ultimately youre controling their destiny. The race dies, but youre still there. SO, doesnt that mean that you as the player are omnipotent and thereby considered a GOD?!?!

    B: You didnt think this through!

    C: It was a very big miss.

    D: The math says youre an idiot!

  80. Pimp yo' rideon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:46 am 80

    Yo dawg we heard you liked ignorance so we put a bible in your car!

  81. Williamon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:47 am 81

    Why can’t evolution be the answer to how and not the answer to who. why can’t they both be right? maybe it was just that the guys writing the bible were actually not very smart people, and they messed a lot of the dates and stuff up. The morals are still there, and as long as you follow that without devotion to the specifics, both god and evolution can exist in the same world

  82. evolutionarystson 10 Sep 2008 at 4:49 am 82

    I think there should be more porn in internet since jesus died because he fucked a prostitute.

  83. Ben Joseph Doveron 10 Sep 2008 at 4:49 am 83

    You seem like a great guy please post your email address so we can discuss what a sick game this is.

    Thank you and god bless

  84. Raian Cryoson 10 Sep 2008 at 4:49 am 84

    @ TheMagnificen7
    Awesome post, and I wholeheartedly agree. In my previous post, I admitted that I am athiest, but I also claimed that either theory (evolutionary or creationary) has the liklihood of being wrong. The world would be a much nicer place if people like the admin of this website wouldn’t force their beliefs down our throats; especially without much valid evidence.

  85. antiantisporeon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:53 am 85

    funny havent seen you debating anywhere yet
    stop being a faggot and stand up for what you think is right

  86. Jimboon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:54 am 86

    “But I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.”

    You are an idiot.

  87. fuck youon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:54 am 87

    Oh my god, your a fucking retard. Get a life you prick.

  88. Raptortimon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:55 am 88

    That offensive! You are saying that I’m wrong and a bad person just because I don’t believe what you believe. WHY! I can’t believe you would say such a thing!

  89. dododuhon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:04 am 89

    “people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.” hence this website

  90. Tom Batteyon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:08 am 90

    You say you are not afraid of debate? Fair enough. Let’s debate.

    First off, I have nothing against religion, people have the right to believe in whatever they want, I’m not going to argue that. What gets me is when creationists, or followers of any religion or philosophy in fact, try to claim that everyone should follow their beliefs. You are, in fact, forcing your idea of morality onto other people. This is something I really can’t stand.

    You state that to teach children the theory of evolution is ‘corrupting the minds of children’. Would you not then agree that teaching children creationism in schools, as has been the standard for centuries, is also ‘corrupting’ their minds, as it imprints YOUR idea of truth on them, rather than letting them make up their own mind, based on experience and rational decision?

    Spore, the game, doesn’t try to teach any theory or philosophy. It’s simply a fun, bitesize take on how it’s currently considered that life came about, based on evidence, research, and rationality. The game isn’t trying to teach anyone anything, it never states that evolutionism is fact, and, unlike you, it does not try to force its views on other people.

    The user-created-content aspect of the game seems to be your main issue with the game itself, and is a non-issue as far as I can see. The game lets people create what they want to create, and share it with others. So does a piece of paper and a pencil. Would you argue we should ban those, because it’s possible a child might draw a picture of a penis? The only ‘obscene’ content you see in Spore is that generated by users, not the creators of the game, and it is easy to stop the game downloading this content, so your son would never see any of the ‘obscene’ creations posted on this website.

    If you really want to debate any of these topics, then please, email me at [email protected]. If not, then please stop trying to influence people about a matter you really don’t seem to understand.

    – Tom

  91. wtf?on 10 Sep 2008 at 5:08 am 91

    Who ever is writing these posts is a complete religious idiot, try to be accepting of our right to be free willed beings. The bible is the most self contradicting book of all time and people are stupid for believing it. You the person who is writing these articles are the reason why the world trade center no longer exists, because some one didn’t follow what you think you feel attacked and decide to attack back, YOUR A RELIGIOUS TERRORIST.

    [IMG]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e179/Poseidon90/Christianity.jpg[/IMG]

  92. PenisLuveron 10 Sep 2008 at 5:10 am 92

    I guess you’re one of the few who doesn’t get defensive.

  93. Samon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:11 am 93

    TheMagnificen7, may I point you in another direction?
    We owe everything to the evolutionary process, or in fact random interactions of molecules, on a grand scale we are merely matter moving in odd directions, i agree with you entirely.
    However, religious zealots such as our fine admin aren’t a huge turn-on. If they tone it down, they could pass themselves off as mildly challenged humans for long enough to procreate, leading to mini-zealots, which just prolongs the cycle of idiocy.
    Let them be, they will die out of their own accord.

  94. Vaders Ghoston 10 Sep 2008 at 5:11 am 94

    I understand the frustration when it comes to Spore for religous people. I am a former Catholic that has converted to an evolutionist. The problem with this whole debate is that you find our game offensive, but no one has come out and complained about the Bible Game that is available for XBOX 360. This means that you, the religous zealots, are the ones that are over reacting and being mean. The evolutionist accepted your game is out there and did not complain, but since our game is actually popular and people want to play it you are confrontational.

    Do you understand that just because we believe in evolution does not mean that we are bad? If your religion is correct then we will be judged when we die, is that not enough for you?

    I am about to have a daughter, and it is people like you that go against the moral and foundation of the United States that I fear she meets.

    VG

  95. God himselfon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:12 am 95

    This is coming from god himself I DON’T GIVE A SHIT HUMANS EVOLVED I JUST WATCH YOUR DUMB ASSES PRAY TO ME AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS YOUR NOTHING I AM ETERNAL NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU BEG I WILL NEVER HELP YOU NO MATTER WHAT

  96. corsnoron 10 Sep 2008 at 5:12 am 96

    2000 year old book vs scientists who figured out more in the last century then mankind has probably ever known.

    Yeah I know where I’m gonna put my money ^^.

  97. Will Bon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:13 am 97

    You’re saying someone’s opinion is wrong, which shows just how uneducated you are.

  98. pantyraidon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:15 am 98

    at least i didnt make a whole website defending my beliefs.

  99. Belsamethon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:20 am 99

    ROFL!
    Amazing satire my good man.
    It’s so ignorant that it just *has* to be intended as comical.
    You succeeded brillaintly. Perfect 10 for making me laugh 😀

  100. Nathanielon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:26 am 100

    It’s nice to see how god has told us not to jugged people but here you are through it down. It’s so nice to know hell is not going to be a lonely place and we can have all the time in the world to debate… as long as you believe in that kind of thing.

  101. Fraggle Cockon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:27 am 101

    “I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.”

    Yes, yes you are. Arsehole.

  102. Lulz and Seriousnesson 10 Sep 2008 at 5:32 am 102

    Too many answers to the same question can confuse even the creator.

    Lulz and Seriousness

    We may never know how we got here, but everyone needs and answer i guess. Just make sure not to destroy your fellow man in the process of finding that answer, or spreading it.

  103. Nickon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:32 am 103

    Evolution is scientific fact, it can be proven with factual evidence. Creationism, on the other hand, is quite difficult to prove.

    Until you have hard and fast evidence, don’t be so quick to judge who is correct and who is incorrect.

    Frankly, it would not surprise me if both theories were correct to some extent.

  104. Carl Saganon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:34 am 104

    Religion is for primitive lifeforms who have not yet evolved into an intelligent life form. Christians are such an example. If the the Bible said that 2+2=17 they would believe it. As time goes on religion will fade away just as polytheism did with ancient religious civilizations. Evolution is FACT, get over it!

  105. Mr. Ponyon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:34 am 105

    Hi, Admin! I’m Mr. Pony. I’m willing to listen, and to have a civilized debate, if necessary; although I’m sure we can see eye-to-eye on a great many issues. Since this is your site, I’d like to start with a few questions, so we can all see where you stand on the issues.

    Tell me, why is it that Biblical Creationism is better at explaining the universe than any other human legends? Why you find the narrative of Biblical Creationism more compelling than the narrative constructed by scientific research? And most importantly, what drew you to Biblical Creationism in the first place?

  106. Josephon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:34 am 106

    A debate cant get very far when the entire argument on the side of religion is based in fantasy and “faith”. There really is nothing to debate on the side of religionaryists. Its all in their heads. Its like defending Santa Claus if you will.

  107. Brandonon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:41 am 107

    Hi! I’m an “Evolutionairyist!” I would just like to stop by and “commenting” on your post!

  108. Lulz and Seriousnesson 10 Sep 2008 at 5:43 am 108

    the answer to the question of Life is 42. Life = 42… anyone get the reference?

  109. Gordon Freemanon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:45 am 109

    The bible says that god created man in his own image, Evolution says we slowly became what we are by improving the next generation. So if we were created in hi own image then why are some people fat, short, tall, disfigured, and different colored? What would go look like then? The mere notion of flying angels, splitting the ocean, building an arc to hold two of EVERY animal on earth (Even the REALLY deadly ones) makes me laugh! Evolution makes more sense than theses fairy tales!

  110. beanfarmeron 10 Sep 2008 at 5:45 am 110

    I’m not sure if god exists or not, if there is a higher power be it Allah, the God of the jews or a number of Hindu or pagan gods, im sure that god or gods wouldn’t want his/her/its creations killing each other over how they worship or even worse oil, im assuming that this site has been set up by an American as America does produce the top A-grade religious nutters. i am a liberal britt and i do respect the religious views of others, what i dont like is when religious others try to force there views on me, or worse totally dismiss my own views, i do agree with the theory of evolution, i feel there is a lot more evidence to support that theory than the creation story of the 3 major religions in this world (Christianity, Judaism, Islam)

    (for some extra evidence read this slashdot post http://science.slashdot.org/science/08/09/09/2211216.shtml )

    i believe that the world is a lot older than 5000 years old although none of us will ever know as we have no time machines to prove it.

    now on to spore, i believe the use of DRM in spore was a mistake but the game is good. I think that the creator of the full frontal nudity creature had nothing better to do, and it was his hand that made that creature not EA or MAXIS.

    the creator was the one with the horny mind! sorry my opinion.

  111. Daredevilon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:45 am 111

    I am willing to debate.
    I wish you would realize that someone in the government has already thought about what you are discussing.
    They realize they cannot control everything that a child sees.
    This is the job of both THE PARENTS and THE ESRB!

    People already control what you say isn’t.
    YOU CAN ONLY SEE THIS CONTENT ONLINE!
    This is why the ESRB doesn’t rate online play. You can’t regulate it.
    The game doesn’t need to be played online, and it can be disabled.

    Things like this blog are, for the most part, spam.
    I wish you could see that. Stop the “righteous fury” that you feel you are inflicting on EA. Will Wright is a great man for what he did with things like The Sims and Spore.

    I don’t like it when people like you comment on things you don’t bother to try to understand.

  112. RobertHon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:46 am 112

    Look, the only reason that I refuse to believe in a supreme power is the fact that there are so many loopholes in the Bible. I’ll give a few examples.
    1. The Bible states “Thou shalt not kill.” However, it is a widely accepted fact that more people have been murdered in the name of God than any other religion.
    2. Satan is said to be the definition of evil, and God is the definition of good. But, if God created Samael (Lucifer), is it also true that he created evil? Also, if God is all powerful, why can he not destroy Satan so that his people will stay pure, not tempted by evil?
    3. Christians say “Love thy neighbor.” Why is it, then, that most of the hateful discrimination and racism came from devout Christians? (Hitler, for example.)
    4. Why did God not intervene to save the lives of millions of people during the genocides of the Jews during World War II, Stalin’s Purges, and Mao’s “Cultural Revolution?”
    I would appreciate it greatly if you would answer these questions. I do love a good debate. 🙂

  113. rabbiton 10 Sep 2008 at 5:47 am 113

    I love a religilous debate, nothing folds faster than a dogmatic religion under scrutiny.
    That what happens when a man writes a book and does not understand the universe he lives in – akin to Genesis when light is created before the light emitting bodies aka the sun (stars). You would think ‘god’ would understand basic science – but hey, thats what faith is for right?

  114. PYeon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:48 am 114

    Is this a spoof? It’s a pretty good one if it is.

  115. ChadInFLon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:48 am 115

    The sooner religion dies out in America the better off we all will be.

  116. Johnon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:49 am 116

    “But I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.”

    Ha, this coming from the person that had to dedicate a whole website to the annoying idea that their beliefs are more important then others… so much more important you have to go on giant quest to inform the public of this horrible wrong doing. Way to project your douche-baggery on the rest of us.

  117. lacYon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:53 am 117

    When I went to my first 4th year immunolgy lecture the prof put it quite bluntly:

    “I don’t care what you believe in or what you don’t. I don’t care if you think the earth is 6000 years old or even something as wacky as the idea that pigs can fly. Evolution isn’t a belief; it’s common sense and that’s how it’s going to be treated.”

    In other words: to the fuck face who made this site, if you don’t believe in evolution (which is supported by evidence that is so large compared to the evidence for creationism that it’s undefined), you sir are a complete and total fucking idiot.

  118. Mathewon 10 Sep 2008 at 6:08 am 118

    Of course people get defensive when they know they’re wrong.

    Why else would this blog exist?

  119. Guyon 10 Sep 2008 at 6:13 am 119

    …If evolution didn’t happen we wouldn’t be intelligent enough to debate and build games like spore.

    What did we just magically gain the ability to have all of these technological advances? It didn’t happen overnight, it took lots of evolution! Without evolution everyone would be blindly following a religion. It seems the people who don’t believe in evolution are the ones left behind to live in ignorant bliss. While others strive to make life easier.

  120. Dudeon 10 Sep 2008 at 6:17 am 120

    Because talking snakes makes WAY much more sence than “evolution”.

  121. Herr Oberston 10 Sep 2008 at 6:27 am 121

    I believe in Gott (God)… I have never really met anyone who doesn’t in my years in the Bundeswehr, but, I also like to think rationally… If God made anything, it would be the big bang. He didn’t just say ‘Let`s make some stuff and see how it goes’… He would have played around for a while, almost like playing the game you are condemning. After all, aren’t all animals perfect for what they need to be/do?

  122. Cpl Darwinon 10 Sep 2008 at 6:45 am 122

    I’ve noticed this site uses non-aggressive words to pour scorn on the views of Evolutionists. “Some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong” is a sweeping statement, calling assumption on the Admin’s view being the correct one by automatically judging those who believe otherwise as wrong.

    Whether Creationists or Evolutionists are ‘correct’, such biased, unbalanced statements, presented as unquestionable fact, cannot be intelligently considered. This is applicable to any debate.

    I would say the Admin needs to consider such bias remarks in order to be treated fairly by anyone with opposing views. If you truly believe in Creationism, treat your belief with respect.

  123. Captain Scrambleson 10 Sep 2008 at 6:47 am 123

    You disappoint me. To take SIMULATED REALITY & accept it as concrete, damn. What a shame. Simply because in a work of fiction, things do not occur in the same fashion as in a religious text, doesn’t mean they’re forcing their belief upon you. Consider this, the game Too Human, a work of fiction, centers around Norse mythology. DO the developers believe in Norse gods? Of course not. Do they expect you to? Hell no! Spore centers around evolution. Now, ask yourself, does that mean you have to take it as fact, because it’s in a video game? No! It just makes for a rather nifty game concept. I really think you’re overreacting here, and I’m not alone.

  124. The Christian Right is Neitheron 10 Sep 2008 at 6:56 am 124

    ok i have a few things to say actualy, and i hope someone gets to see my comment.

    1. first, i very much disagree with the creator of this website. people are right when you say u made your accusations off researchless claims. What you said was completely ignorant of fact, when you talked about EA and Will Wright being the bad people in this.

    2. I am a Christian. I believe in Creation. I want to say if your gonna make an argument like this, you need to be more prepared, or else you will just make Christianity and believing in God look stupid.

    3. I dont agree with the claim that evolution is proven. i would like to see the proof tht we came from monkeys besides the fact that we may have similar bodies. I may not be well read on the subject, but i know that it would take alot to PROVE evolution.

    4. Most importantly, the big thing everyone is missing is that we dont need proof to prove Dod’s existence. we have faith. and while there may be proof, thts not what we base our beliefs on. Science is not the basis of our beliefs. Science is just the attempt for man to know more about the universe that God put him in, and i dont think there is anything wrong with it.

    and thts all for now

  125. Not Adminon 10 Sep 2008 at 7:09 am 125

    Like you do in your postings in this blog??

  126. Samon 10 Sep 2008 at 7:14 am 126

    First off I’d like to say that I’m a Chistian however I also live in the real world and except things like evolution to be true. I also try to be nice and helpfull and i don’t believe that shoving my beliefs down other peoples throats or trying to make companies stock goes down falls under that catagory. From what I have read on this website you show a lot of hypocrasy so far and I thought I might point that out to you.

  127. Zackon 10 Sep 2008 at 7:46 am 127

    Yes, obviously get a life indeed. You are just to Christian to even side the truth of Evolution. You will be damned because yeah if you call me wrong on this and everyone here is talking about the same thing. I’ll get pissed, maybe even you to because you just can’t make peace. You are also obviously just plain stupid to rant on, who would seriously would want to hear more of this fucking rant?. Because you make Spore porn all the time?. This whole site is fucking sick, and also you my friend. Are fucking sick. Everyone here is right, except for the Christian’s. Actually scratch that, this whole site is just fucking sick and maybe no one else?. You decide, Fag.

  128. A Manon 10 Sep 2008 at 7:49 am 128

    It’s funny how you basically incite everyone’s rage by being so closed-minded.

    You are truly trolling everybody ever. And that’s almost so despicable it’s admirable.

  129. Markon 10 Sep 2008 at 8:08 am 129

    Sir, I would just like to say thank you for at least making your site open for comments. Your views I do not agree with, however it is not my place to convince you otherwise. Opening a Forum for discussions allows people to interact with one another, share ideas and viewpoints, and improve themselves. You have the right to post any kind of easily-accessed website you would like on the internet, with any views that you would prefer, however, wouldn’t you say that the rights that you enjoy should be rights that all of humanity should enjoy? and if not, I would love to hear a person who is an advocate for intelligent design also advocate inequality. The very act of stating, with certainty, that EA’s game is propogating views that are in some way offensive to you is fine, but trying to gather up support for the game’s destruction would warrant supporters of the game to try to gather up support for your own destruction as well, causing this whole thing to be potentially very double edged. I love America, and any other country in which a person is free to express themselves and believe what they would like without fear of opression and tyranny. However, the issue we must always face is the price for freedom is that the free sometimes misunderstand, and believe that their freedom is the only kind that matters, and all others should be trampled underfoot. Believe as you like, like what you believe, but accept that others will do the same, and you will not stop them no matter how hard you try, and the harder you try, the more people will come to abhor your viewpoints instead of agreeing with them. To simplify this as much as possible, Fight for your rights, not against the rights of others.

  130. Emmetton 10 Sep 2008 at 8:18 am 130

    I have gone to Catholic Schools for the past 13 years, and I have learned that evolution is the real deal. And Yes, a few priests did tell me this. Many books in the Old Testament are just stories. Haven’t you ever noticed that God was angry in the Old Testament, but becomes merciful in the New Testament. Adam and Eve is just a story. Adam represents man, Eve represents temptation, and the Snake represents sin. With the story of Noah, it would be impossible for a man to put 2 of EVERY ANIMAL IN THE WORLD ON ONE BOAT, for 40 days and night, and put them all in the right places after the flood was over. How would a species survive if there were only two animals left from that species, even if one is male and the other is female. Science has proved that dinosaurs have lived on Earth, and if God decide to put dinosaurs with humans, than I doubt that humans would be around today. There is much evidence that supports evolution, and the only things that explains creationism is the Old Testament.

  131. Terenon 10 Sep 2008 at 8:20 am 131

    Guys,

    I suggest we just ignore this dirt bag.
    After all, he’s just looking for attention and posts so he can show off to increase his ego and his ” e-penis ”

  132. Tristanon 10 Sep 2008 at 8:28 am 132

    Alright, let’s settle this debate once and for all.

    Evolution is a fact, provable with verifiable and reproducable evidence and experimentation. Take, for example, the influenza virus. There are only five known influenza viruses that are in existence at this point in time. Yet, much to the dismay of doctors and patients alike, they are radically different than any previous versions of the virus. This is not because new strains are being discovered or unearthed. This is because the virus evolves EVERY year. If it didn’t we would need just ONE flu-shot for our whole lifetime, and the antibodies would work til our death. Evolution also occurs in more complex lifeforms, such as flies. Flies have been observed in contained environments, with no radioactive or mutagenic substances, developing to evolve and adapt to changing conditions such as harsh lighting or high temperatures. The flies in harsh lighting evolved to have smaller eyes and larger antennae, while the ones in high temperature containers evolved larger wings to help radiate heat away from the body. This is not a disputable claim, it has been recorded and documented, and is purely fact.

    To claim that God is all powerful and created the world in seven days is to say that God is not truly all powerful. An all powerful being could craft an entire universe in an instant, with no effort. So if it took seven days and one day of rest, that makes for a truly powerful entity, but not all powerful as the bible suggests. This makes the other claims from the Bible subject to question as well. I am not suggesting God does not exist, because clearly SOMETHING created the universe we live in, be it a sentient force or otherwise, but to think that Evolution is impossible merely because a book suggests it isn’t true is folly. Creationists and Intelligent Designists both share one idea: God is all powerful and Evolution does not happen on its own. Which brings back the Flu virus. If Evolution did not happen on its own, then it follows that God must be responsible for any changes in organic life. If this is true, then God would also be responsible for the changes in viruses and bacteria that make them resistant to medicine, and therefore lethal to many people. This does not follow with your perception of God as a benevolent and all-knowing creator. As a benevolent entity, God would not subject us to disease unless we had sinned, and clearly a 2 month old child has not sinned, though they die from disease frequently. As an all-knowing entity God would not accidentally create a disease or virus that can harm us, yet they do exist. So one of those two descriptions of God must be false, and both of them came from one source: the bible. It then follows that if the bible has no credible or verifiable basis upon which to make claims, and many of its strongest claims are proven to be false or at least misunderstood by the majority of its readers, then it cannot be used as a marker for truth or ethical right.

    Evolution is fact, and this game does a fantastic job of appealing to not only Evolutionists, but also Creationists and Intelligent Designists. God, the player, must create first a simple lifeform that lives normally, but then needs to be changed based on altered conditions in the environment/universe. The player then decides these changes based upon what they would like their creation to become. This is not unlike the Bible, actually. God molded Adam from the dust of the stars, and clearly (to anyone that has ever molded anything) this was not an instant process. God worked on Adam and took time perfecting the mold. I disagree with the perfection part, since we are FAR from perfect creatures, weak and defenseless as we exist.

    Please try to be more open-minded about this, like your idol: Christ. He was not closed minded about ideas and beliefs, he merely told people they were wrong (since according to Christianity he was as all knowing as God, he could say that), and let them choose whether they would be saved or not. I would like to think that Christ was more liberal in his ideology, as far as human rights are concerned. But that isn’t the point.

    The point is this: embrace knowledge, accept fact, and understand truth. God may exist, and if he does and is as benevolent as you claim, he doesn’t care what any of us believe, so long as we don’t break the 10 commandments. Leave your pedestal of righteousness, become one with Christ, and allow others to excercise the Free Will that God gave them. Or rather, that we evolved into having.

  133. Guyon 10 Sep 2008 at 8:37 am 133

    Not all Christians believe in Creation the way it is taught today in the church. I am a Baptist and happen to believe that God used evolution to create life.

  134. Guyon 10 Sep 2008 at 8:44 am 134

    It could be argued that the Bible actually describes evolution in Geneses. Adam was “created” from the dust of the Earth. That is basically a summary of evolution.

  135. Ieykeon 10 Sep 2008 at 11:19 am 135

    I’m sorry you can’t face the truth of your existence. I’m not saying there’s no god or anything (I won’t pretend to have unraveled the mysteries of the universe). All I’m saying is that you are who you are as a product of evolution and the environment in which you were raised, NOT by the whims of of an omnipotent entity. Unfortunately for you and your beliefs, which I’m sure I can’t change (because the beliefs of someone on a crusade against something are almost always already dead set against any logic contrary to their faith even if they say they’re willing to discuss), there is no longer a THEORY of evolution. Evolution is now scientific FACT. Evolution has been recreated and recorded by science. Unless you’re going to try and argue against all science as voodoo and witchcraft all other arguments against evolution are null and void.

    Evolution Proven:
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/11/15631/9132/632/527201

    I still don’t really understand why you’d ever even believe we just went *poof* and appeared in our present form. It makes no sense at all even in the limited scientific comprehension of a few decades ago. Also the god you so believe in is nothing more than a derivative of Zeus, Ra, Odin and numerous other mythological All-Father figures as dictated by the first of the Holy Roman Emperors in order to pacify the numerous different cultures under the rule of the Holy Roman Empire. The incomprehensible number of inconsistencies that make up all of Christianity and the Bible is weighed so heavily against all reason that any argument of “but I have faith” makes you look retarded or insane when directly compared. It’s clear to me how a world in the age of the Holy Roman Empire could be twisted into believing the utterly ludicrous, but I just can’t fathom how this madness has managed to cling to a society where information flows freely and is widely available to the masses. I suppose it does fit pretty well into my tried and tested axiom that “people in general are stupid”. That’s not to say that YOU are stupid, but it shows that the environment that had the most influence on you WAS full of stupid people (or people who were in turn taught by other stupid people and so on all the way back to the Holy Roman Empire) and you have never felt comfortable enough to step out of your idealized little comfort zone and find out what the real world might actually consist of. Sure, you might’ve read all about evolution and such things, but you’ve never actually been willing to believe that it might actually be true. You’ve never weighed the hard evidence of one versus the other.

    I myself am agnostic since thus far there is NO evidence for or against any sort of deities, but all the same I pay respect to Athena as the goddess concept who most embodies all the purest most good and honorable ideals of mankind. This brings me to another question. Why, aside from fear of an ultimate fate that he would control, would you even WANT to worship a god so cruel as the Christian one? If you have even a half-assed knowledge of Christian theology you must know that God is a very cruel and capricious being. Even if Jesus was indeed his son and possessed any manner of supernatural powers that were used to the benefit of mankind it would still be an extremely pitiful payment for all the misery God has supposedly caused.

  136. Zeroon 10 Sep 2008 at 12:20 pm 136

    You close minded religious types are whats wrong with this world. Your the reason why we have wars. Why cant you just let people live their lives how they want them to be and if this bothers you that much, dont even pay attention to it then. if you even wanted proof that evolution (the act of something adapting to its environment by changing its appearance or internal structure) look at most asians and african americans, they evolved to deal with harsh sunlight and freezing temps. THATS what evolution is about

  137. Mohamedon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:29 am 137

    I love Mayonnaise with my Fries, you might like to eat it with Ketchup. Does our differences make anyone one of us better than the other, of course not. But your simple views and restrictions proves that you are selective of your knowledge of things. Jesus believed in knowledge and learning and restricting and state that others are wrong and that you are right goes against he believed in.

    Please, stop wasting yours and other people’s time with your petty dislike with a videogame…it’s fiction, its sole purpose is to entertain. If you really want to make a difference, go volunteer at a soup kitchen, donate to a local charity and help a child in need by taking them to a park…stop posting on a blog.

  138. Mohamedon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:30 am 138

    Also, the computer has evolved, so technically your using the computer shows you believe in evolution…so again, you’re not proving your case.

  139. Billyon 10 Sep 2008 at 2:36 am 139

    I’m not religious by any definition and I understand what you mean by a good debate. No one is ever going to be happy with anything, take this for example, creationists don’t like spore because it promotes evolution. I completely understand that.

    You saying that ‘people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong’ isn’t any better than the people before. It goes both ways, I have seen one sided debates were the religious person in question gets defensive as well as debates where the other side will get equally as offensive.

  140. Daniel Mitchellon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:08 am 140

    Maybe if you looked at the whole situation with more of an open-mind then people wouldn’t respond with equally closed-minds.

  141. Jonon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:09 am 141

    No, people get defensive when you call them evil for not agreeing with you.

  142. tceon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:13 am 142

    Evolution-airy-ists? See website.

    Anyway, thing is they don’t KNOW if they’re wrong, because it’s impossible due to there being no proof.

  143. SoMon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:14 am 143

    Please explain how the presence of evil in the world can justify the existence of an omnipotent, omnibenevolent God.

  144. Incognitoon 10 Sep 2008 at 3:19 am 144

    First of all, I think you are severly wrong. Spore is a wonderful game, even if it does, according to you, go against God’s words.

    But why is it that religious people always turn out to be so hostile? As soon as they hear that some book is being written that goes against his/hers God’s words, they go haywire. Why is it always that? Why can’t people accept theories, religions, and respect them, instead of making sites like this? You should be ashamed of yourself!

    P.S: Don’t bother replying. The email is fake, as you can clearly see from the title.

  145. Alex Sterlingon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:11 am 145

    It appears some people’s confidence is only emboldened by ignorance as well. This is probably a result of not being able to grasp the breadth and complexity of the universe, and the total irrelevance of any higher power. And by higher power I mean anything more powerful than the theoretical higgs boson.

  146. Richardon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:28 am 146

    It is clear you lack a very basic understanding of the scientific method. There cannot be a scientific debate between creationism and evolution because creationism is not science.

    There isn’t now, nor has there ever been, a SINGLE piece of evidence to support creationism. There isn’t a single piece of testable evidence or valid scientific observation to support it. Creationism is a refuge for the intellectually impotent.

    There is a MOUNTAIN of evidence, all of which is testable and observable, in support of evolution. There is still heated debate on some of the very specific details of evolutionary biology, but the theory is very robust and strong. It is the only theory that shows us how the great variety of life on earth came to be.

  147. just sayingon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:30 am 147

    to mr. admin

    perhaps you could entertain me with a debate. i assure you that i will always respect your views so long as you respect mine.

    1. fossils found by human beings give evidence that the human beings of thousands of years ago where profoundly different from the ones that currently inhabit the earth. it logicaly follows that humans changed over time due to some reason or another. what is the term for changing over time due to some reason or another? -evolution-

    2. acording to you, god raised his hand and created mankind. does this mean he also raised his hand and created AIDS, cancer, and other diseaes that will not only effect those who do not even know of god’s name(villages on africa), but also ones compleatly devoid of sin(children)?

    feel free to reply as you see fit to the points i have raised. i am keenly interested in hearing what you have to say

  148. Not the guy running this site (thank jebus)on 10 Sep 2008 at 4:37 am 148

    Debate? HA! I doubt you even know how. You’re a fucking christian for Christ’s sake, and logic seems to escape you entirely.

  149. Shaunon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:50 am 149

    G.od
    A.dores
    Y.ou

  150. Carlon 10 Sep 2008 at 5:16 am 150

    Zealot asshole doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    He shouldn’t be allowed to bear offspring.

    I vote that his children are taken into care.

  151. Anonon 10 Sep 2008 at 6:00 am 151

    God tier troll.

  152. librarianon 10 Sep 2008 at 6:11 am 152

    I dont really get the defensive when you know your wrong bit. Yes people can get defensive, just like christian fundementalists.

    but we prooved evolution. and by prooved i mean, you know dug up the bones, carbon dated that stuff, made the links. Now im not getting into a big debate about “Sure maybe god started evolution though” im willing to accept that as a possibility, But im just as willing to accept the flying spaghetti monster as my one true noodly appendage. and am a firm supporter of that good old epicurus. “then why call him god”.

    the last thing i want to say is, its a bbit harsh calling this EA’s war on creationism. That makes the guys at EA seem like these big shady creatures sat behind desks plotting their next anti-christian attack. They are just people providing entertainment for gamers. its what they do. If you disagree with it, if you dont want your kids being “perverted” by it, then just dont buy it for them. its just like the problm christians had with the jerry sprinnger opera. sure you may not wan na watch it, thats fine, but i sure as hell am gonna go down the theatre. Becuase its my right as a free human to “warp” my views on just about anything as and when i see fit.

  153. librarianon 10 Sep 2008 at 6:16 am 153

    Christianity:

    The belife that a cosmic jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symboicaly eat his flesh and drink his blood, and telepathicaly tell him that you accept him as your master, so that he can remove an evil force (not fucking thetans) from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree…..

    This makes far more sense than. The Stronger more able creatures survived, and so genetic traits from them got parsed on and the weaker species died out…..i mean thats just crazy talk, evolution is harder to believe in than sober irishmen. (no offense to irish people, love you guys)

  154. ea artson 10 Sep 2008 at 6:26 am 154

    this site is now targited

  155. Messiahon 10 Sep 2008 at 6:33 am 155

    who ever created this site is a fuck head

  156. Chuckon 10 Sep 2008 at 7:08 am 156

    You have really no evidence of what you say and you’re talking about being wrong?

    You are a dangerous fanatic, integrist.

  157. just a europeanon 10 Sep 2008 at 8:51 am 157

    Hrhrhr I am so glad being european herritage and not american. You guys realy have serious problems 😉 . And you realy wonder why nobody in the world takes you serious anymore? I just hope that the opinion showed on this website is just the opinion of a very small minority. God bless you.

  158. nagashon 10 Sep 2008 at 9:17 am 158

    I wonder how can someone still believes in creationism.
    dark ages are long gone, we’ve got smarter, wake up for god’s sake!

    why don’t you spend your time doing something useful for your planet and your people, instead of creating this site and standing as the internet joke of the week? your god was created by fear and ignorance, your savior is anesthesia for the masses. life is more than that, raise your head and look to the stars, look around you! the only “god” is life itself, the living, pulsing, liquid, everchanging biology! evolution is not a theory, it’s a scientific FACT you morom! thanks GOD we teach that to our children, instead of filling their heads with guilt, morals and hell.

  159. Penisofgodon 10 Sep 2008 at 10:03 am 159

    You are wrong. Because if you weren’t you wouldn’t write this. You are wrong godman.

  160. Antimanon 10 Sep 2008 at 10:45 am 160

    Your fucked in the brain.

  161. CRUSHBOTon 10 Sep 2008 at 12:38 pm 161

    This is…the most beautiful troll I have ever seen.

    I applaud you, sir. Satire at its finest.

  162. GOD HAS NO PLACE ON THE INTERNETon 10 Sep 2008 at 1:01 pm 162

    Your idea of debate is telling the other party that they are wrong with no evidence to supporting your conclusion.

    Let me call Webster and get them to update the ‘Ídiotic Moron Dictionary: Christian Edition’ to include your idea of the meaning of debate.

  163. lightbringeron 10 Sep 2008 at 1:49 pm 163

    who ever created this site is a fuck head

  164. poopbutton 10 Sep 2008 at 3:15 pm 164

    How is it a debate when you aren’t arguing your point?

  165. Jesus Christon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:00 pm 165

    I really need you to stop insulting all of the “intelligent” people… you know the ones that don’t believe in this bullshit creation theory.

  166. God in heavenon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:04 pm 166

    My son just explained to me that you are all very unhappy with the popular video game “Spore”. It is only a game and you “unintelligent” people who are criticizing the word of evolution should stop speaking.

  167. Togoon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:07 pm 167

    It is actually hard to ask people to “be a little nicer”, when in your previous post you said that Will Wring is an “evil man” just because he made a game in which you can create your own creature… What do you think about all the RTS games, then? In most of them you can control your own troops as if you were God (in fact, it’s impossible to give specific direct orders on a battlefield, only a God could do that), or games like The Sims, or even “worse” Black&White. I would like to start a debate about creationism, but I know that this is not the right place.

  168. Jasonon 10 Sep 2008 at 4:10 pm 168

    Please visit http://www.godisimaginary.com

    Once on the site look through the many proofs why religion is a hoax…. and then tell all the religious morons you see, exactly why they are retarded.

  169. someone...on 10 Sep 2008 at 4:25 pm 169

    wow,
    I must admit, you are a wonderful troll…

    I applaud your trolling ability. however, you don’t explain why the evolotionists are wrong, nor do you offer evidence of why creationism is right.

    Please submit for comment your evidence either way. Also Spore should be attacked by the religious as an affront to God, just like Black and White was. you are playing God. you are not God, therefore you should not pretend to be God. after all there is only the One true God right?.

    It is also a historical irony of course that one of the people who laid the groundwork for the evolutionary debate was a priest. It was Gregor Mendel who discovered that traits are passed on through generations… and discovered selective breeding. which is often considered the foundation for the evolution theory.

  170. Johnon 10 Sep 2008 at 6:52 pm 170

    Being “anti” spore for it’s evolution would exactly like me being anti-bible for it’s creationism. I don’t have to buy a bible and thus you do not have to buy spore. Get over it.

    And since when do children buy PC games? For one, adults make up a majority of the PC game market and lastly adults usually buy the games for kids. Adults who can think for themselves in this free country.

  171. The Big Let Downon 10 Sep 2008 at 7:25 pm 171

    Um, guys?

    I think this is a joke.
    So, let the man have his fun.

  172. annonon 10 Sep 2008 at 11:18 pm 172

    The trap is set. Anyone who argues after this point is wrong. One might say “Its a Trap!”. But come on. It’s not a trap. It’s an out. From now on, you will attempt to justify yourself using this post, saying that because they read this and continued arguing, that they are admitting they are wrong. Because the trick is so basic, it holds no merit.

    I’m sure there are a lot of idiots on here as blind as you, defending the game because they like the game. I defend it because I find supporting it to be more logical then attacking it.

    I go to church most sundays. But you are blind. Why would ‘god give us free will’ if we are capable of creating a game that is this ‘horrible’? So that when we tell him he’s great, it means something? Oh come on, we all know gods up there in heaven, playing one giant game of spore. We’re the players.

  173. Admiral Ackbaron 11 Sep 2008 at 2:20 am 173

    It’s a trap!

  174. Marcoon 11 Sep 2008 at 3:35 am 174

    No you are wrong

  175. Chrison 11 Sep 2008 at 3:49 am 175

    You creationists are even creating your own words now.

  176. Sharomeon 11 Sep 2008 at 4:26 am 176

    I’d like to bring the following to your attention: the word Evolutionairyists did not exist in any sort of common usage until this post (Source: google search and exploration of spidering dates). However, this new words very existance is an inherent failing of the intelligent design theory. Ergo, following the theory of intelligent design, humans, and thus language were created by god, and was perfect on the first try. Thus, the necessity of creating a word to describe those who believe in evolution, and moreover, creating it out of multiple existing words is itself, a case study in evolution, though a uncommon (though, still lingually and ideologically valid) use of the word and underlying ideas.

  177. Adrienon 11 Sep 2008 at 6:09 am 177

    I don’t agree with evolution theory too. Man has been created by a giant turtle, which had eaten clay and regurgitated it into the man form we know.

  178. Marieon 11 Sep 2008 at 6:14 am 178

    Hmm. Yeah. Sounds like you’re getting kind of defensive…

  179. damnon 11 Sep 2008 at 6:40 am 179

    Dude WTF where you thinking creating this site?!

    God’s gone!! Games toke over the world now!

    Why do you think half the world’s at war?!

  180. An Europeanon 11 Sep 2008 at 7:56 am 180

    As a european, i must say, this topic is hilarious. 🙂
    Christians over here do not believe, that the world was actually created in six days. I can say, because I am a christian.

  181. Jesuson 11 Sep 2008 at 10:20 am 181

    I understand that people who know they are wrong are afraid to let their children see the other option or learn anything other then religion… afraid they’ll find all the flaws in religion once they see the evidence in evolution.

    I am an athiest and my children will learn both religion and evolution… so they can make an educated decision themselves rather then be brain washed into a belief. Chances are they will choose science as it is quite obvious to anyone with half a brain…

    wake up dude!!

  182. Melon 11 Sep 2008 at 10:23 am 182

    isn’t that embarassing for yourself??

  183. Jigsawon 11 Sep 2008 at 12:29 pm 183

    you belive in a stupid book that says that God Just said, there will be man, and so be it.
    do you really think that you’ll conquer a piece in heaven for belive in a book, so you are the wrong one

  184. Roberton 11 Sep 2008 at 3:43 pm 184

    I find it interesting that creationists enjoy the speed offered by gasoline, which is from oil. This is interesting because significantly more than 6000 years is required to produce oil. In addition, electricity is mostly produced from coal, which is ancient plant matter. Ancient meaning hundreds of millions of years old. Both ancient plant matter and ancient animal matter (oil) are what drives the modern economy, and the obliteration of the global ecosystem. If christians really care about God, they will help His world. Instead of attacking the people who do not believe in creation, perhaps fearing that the belief in creation will be damaged, creationists should attack those who damage His creation. And by damage, I mean bring to the brink of total destruction. God is not going to save the world from destruction by His overconsuming people. His people will have to do that. You can start by not wasting electricity, which comes from the filthiest fuel in the world, on this website, and any other creationist websites. If faith is in grave danger of being destroyed, it’s in less danger then the planet.

  185. bobinaon 11 Sep 2008 at 3:47 pm 185

    i don’t care for the idea of evolution but i don’t think creationizm is correct at all where’s the proof?
    i find it’s like scientology made up

  186. N/Aon 11 Sep 2008 at 5:09 pm 186

    Very mature of you. “But I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.” – on the Internet, this is known as trolling.

    Trolling is stating something with the intent to upset.

    Spore shows the concept of evolution very well, and how it works. Your validation of a god (god, lower G) creating Earth is that it says so in a book, and doesn’t at all explain in any way how it would’ve happened. It just did.

  187. saschaon 12 Sep 2008 at 4:38 am 187

    You’ve got balls man, you’ve got balls…

  188. GJKon 12 Sep 2008 at 5:13 am 188

    “I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.”

    I’d quote John 8:7 here but as an atheist (and an “Evolutionairyist” – note the misspelling here, likely a defensive action indicating contempt rather than willingness to debate) I’ll stick with the secular version:

    People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

  189. nixoon 12 Sep 2008 at 7:29 am 189

    Way back when everybody thought the earth was flat, and the scientists (philosophers) were killed for having a better answer.
    Fast forward a few hundred years, it turns out the science was right.
    And there’s still people who think god created the earth flat.
    You took well enough to the teaching as a child that the earth is a sphere and revolves around a sun, but you stopped accepting teaching somewhere along the way and are turning back into that barbarian race that refuses to look at the science of reality.

  190. Da_JoJoon 13 Sep 2008 at 10:12 am 190

    Yu,

    one often gets angry at what is in fact ones own problem and do, which causes discomfort with oneself and in the extreme cases it gets mirrored in the evolutionized world like what we see here happen..

  191. Ken Lordon 13 Sep 2008 at 5:03 pm 191

    Yes Admin, you most certainly have been defensive … thus by your own standard proving that you are wrong.

  192. mikeon 14 Sep 2008 at 1:58 am 192

    “Seems a lot of [b]Evolutionairyists[/b] have been stopping by and commenting.”

    is that a real word?

    “I am not afraid of a debate.” be very afraid of a debate

    ” But I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.”……………..*sigh*………..we think we’re right. And that’s the only reason we are atheists. The atheist afterlife is a hell of lot less apealing than yours.

  193. Kenjion 14 Sep 2008 at 5:26 am 193

    example:

    YOU!

  194. urworstnightmareon 14 Sep 2008 at 3:11 pm 194

    yeah boy!! u da pimp schiznick.
    This site is sick awesomeness

  195. evolutionaryiston 14 Sep 2008 at 7:54 pm 195

    what in the hell is an evolutionaryist

  196. joseon 15 Sep 2008 at 4:51 pm 196

    Robert, you are wrong. Oil? God did it. Coal? God did it. Fossils? God did it.

    These cute christians have one answer for everything –God did it. Oh and you’re going to hell.

  197. Hollyon 16 Sep 2008 at 7:50 pm 197

    Allright, so I think this is a bit extreme that a site was made about a video game. If people want to play it, they’re going to play it.
    Personally, I’m not into religion at all… I was approached with a friend, when I was about 11 or 12 by a guy who was preaching. He asked our names and ages (we lied) and told us we should believe in god… blablabla… obviously he was a creepy sex offender. That was the end of religion for me.
    I think it is incredibly unfair that you are trying to tell people who have other beliefs that they are wrong and pretty much need to be ‘saved’, so to speak.
    I have a question, because I don’t really get this whole religion thing:
    Q: So apparently God created man and stuff according to you, correct? Well…I just don’t comprehend that AT all..like.. what does he have magical powers?.. unless he was a bad ass scientist. And if he did use ‘powers’, than why do a lot of religious people I know dislike Harry Potter, because of the witchcraft and stuff? It would be the same thing kind of.
    Also, If he was able to just create man and woman, why didn’t he create more then 2 people…?
    I don’t really see how people can believe what a book that was made forever ago, by people we won’t even know. Somebody could have been bored and decided, “hey lets make fools out of the later generations and make them believe a story”. Nobody knows if it’s true or not. So believe in what you believe in- or don’t- and let it be.
    I don’t know I am not a big fan of the game, but I have played it. Its like the Sims only with creatures. Harmless!

  198. epic win, epic pwnon 16 Sep 2008 at 8:03 pm 198

    “But I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.”

    That is such outright pwnage. It’s comments like these that should have made people realize this was all a joke. I mean this reserved sounding persona is practically screaming “bring it on!” out of nowhere.

    Oh yeah and “evolutionairyists”. People actually noticed this ridiculous mispelling (from a person who has maintained strong English thus far), had the thick-headedness to correct him, and continued to explain why he’s wrong.

    But the penis monster I’m afraid really took the cake.

    admin is the embodiment of epic win. waitta throw the ball just barely over their heads. When working with a bunch of idiots, knowing EXACTLY how stupid they are lets you humiliate them that much more.

  199. Liamon 18 Sep 2008 at 7:57 am 199

    ok I’m VERY confused right now….is this a joke website or something?

    I’ve listened to some pretty extreme christians before but even they didnt come close to being this dumb. its almost like ur ‘trying’ to piss off the “evolutionairyists”….lol

    Plus this is an “anti-spore” site….why are u advertising that very game if this website is about bashing it? i think ur just a bunch of wind up merchants! and very good ones at that lol 🙂

    perhaps i’ll try reading the Real about page….

  200. joseon 18 Sep 2008 at 2:18 pm 200

    Liam: yes, this is a joke website 🙂

  201. RBon 19 Sep 2008 at 7:56 pm 201

    Good site friend. While I do not agree with all you say, living in this country gives you the right to create this website and share your views with others. I find it admirable you allow others to post their thoughts and opinions on what you have to say.

    What I find troubling and sad is the hateful comments left by some. Those who respond to your entries and those who, I know without a doubt, will respond to my post. People wonder what has happened to our country and one look at many of the visitor comments here give an indication; HATEFUL intolerance of those with a different opinion or view of their own.

    This gentleman set up this site to share how he feels about the game. He doesn’t cuss or hurl demeaning insults, too bad others cannot remain as civil.

    BTW – I enjoy the game and do not see it as an insult to Him.

  202. Angeredon 22 Sep 2008 at 3:55 pm 202

    Hi, i became aware of your website when a friend i play spore with sent me the link, mentioning how obsurd it was. I am not here to leave a nasty or spiteful comment, but am aware that there are many floors in your belief about spore. I am not going to go into this long list now, but if you wish to talk more, so we can compare our views, please feel free to contact me on my email address which i assume you can access somehow if it is hidden. I belive that what you are saying is wrong, and has many floors, but i am not being rude about it. thanks

  203. Danon 01 Oct 2008 at 7:35 am 203

    “But I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.” Sorry dude but i think YOUR the one getting deffensive even making this site. I don’t know what you think is so evil about Spore, Will Wright (or even homosexuals in the last post). I really don’t understand what you are trying to accomplish with this site (ban the game?) but it is a waste of time and to be frank, quite hilirious as many people viewing would agree. Thanks for the laughs, i always find it funny listening to religious fundamentalists who think they speak so righteously.

    http://www.dererumnatura.us/archives/images/petarded.png

  204. Midianon 06 Oct 2008 at 1:07 am 204

    No, free thinkers simply abhor narrow minded bigots like you, I know someone very much like you. Her life is absolutely miserable because everything has to go her way, she is always right, etc, etc.

    Then guess what she does?

    She lays the blame on everyone, and everything else and claims that her faith will pull her through.

    she is in for a sad revelation.

  205. Georgeon 08 Oct 2008 at 8:37 pm 205

    Do not be so arrogant and self righteous as to believe that your beliefs are the only acceptable ones. You blind yourself, as well as make a fool of yourself. And ignoring the people refuting your ridiculous claims by attacking them and saying you feel sorry for them because perhaps they aren’t as enlightened as you is extremely low. If you truly believe your God would support what you are doing, then I’m not sure you deserve his good grace. I personally don’t believe in God. However, I don’t attack people who do. Except you. Because your arrogant and superior attitude sickens me, and demoralizes my faith in humanity. Your provincial view of the world has not been acceptable since the middle ages, and if you want to post this kind of thing on the internet, then you better be prepared to deal with a sea of disapproval. You are living proof that humans are not perfect. And I would strongly suggest you think about what some people have posted here, rather than shoot them down by making yourself seem above them. Who knows, you may even learn a little tolerance and respect for people who don’t share your beliefs.

  206. au ladon 10 Oct 2008 at 8:51 am 206

    I agree that some people can be idiots on the internet, being too close minded, but other Christians think of you in the same way- the aggressive one who weakens their argument through narrow sighted raging.

  207. jgkhfjon 21 Oct 2008 at 5:14 pm 207

    We’re talking like this without being calm because we love the game and gives a person suddenly appears to be finding it just because you believe in God and believe that whoever does not believe is wrong, because you are mistaken because this planet called Earth, we have to respect the opinions of others, if you do not respect our people ensures that we will respect yours?
    And one thing is, I believe in God but believe in science and see you use something I believe in against something else that I believe is unbearable.

  208. Jesuson 18 Dec 2008 at 1:49 pm 208

    Hallelujah, i is back.
    YOU, man, is the one who is defensive. I is not pleased

  209. Reigion killed about 100mrd+peopleon 03 Mar 2009 at 2:53 pm 209

    so you do get pretty defensive , are are you dump enough not to realize that you are wrong?!

    PS: spore creatures have more intelligence in their PENIS than you will ever be able to imagine of.

  210. Jane Goodyon 22 Apr 2009 at 2:54 am 210

    Not that I’m totally impressed, but this is more than I expected for when I found a link on Delicious telling that the info here is quite decent. Thanks.

  211. Satan666on 01 Jul 2010 at 3:10 am 211

    SPORE RUUULEZ BITCHAAAAZ!!!

  212. Tyleron 27 Jul 2010 at 3:48 am 212

    Hey, all you brain-washed God believers, if you wish to debate with me over why there is no God, afterlife, or creationism, please email me here: [email protected]

    I am anxious to hear your half-thought out and fake beliefs. Please email me for a great debate, as I can think clearly and am an atheist.

  213. Anonymouson 03 Jan 2011 at 4:50 pm 213

    I’m trying to be as nice as I can be. Everyone here is basically corrupted like I said in the previous post. Some people are saying some very unkind things here. Correction, almost all. First of all, if you’re imitating Jesus or God, they don’t smoke weed, or cuss, and they have proper grammar too. Second of all, if you’re saying that there is no god, then you’re no better than Admin. She is trying to make people believe in God. And some of you say that there is no God. All I can say is, God bless your soul.

  214. Anonymouson 11 Jan 2011 at 10:52 pm 214

    Dude, none of the immature stuff that can be found in spore is maxis’ fault, it’s people who make the stuff, spore is a game that allows you to create a creature (and yes, evolve it) but schools in the US are required to teach evolution anyways, it’s not like people would be learning anything they wouldn’t be learning anyways.

  215. cymujibuon 05 Feb 2011 at 1:22 pm 215

    Fanaticism used to be a religious thing , now the atheist has joined in . Although I prefer books I’ll select a definition of Fanaticism from the web : excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion . You can be fanatical about God , you can also be fanatical about evolutionism or Science .

    Science is the new god for a lot of people these days . This is not meant to insult although that has become the fashionable way of proving one’s point .

    Some people have heard about some theories , have superficial knowledge of a few of these and may even have searched a bit more about one or two scientific theories and think that that put them in a special category of intelligent beings . The Ultimate Truth have been revealed to Them .Those who don’t think like them are idiots and morons . They are waiting with great Faith – just like the Christian waiting for the Messiah – for the day when Science will reveal every secret , all the problems of humanity will be solved and all the mysteries of the universe will be understood . And maybe – wouldn’t that be fun – when that day come those mentally retarded believers would run around hysterically and jump into the fires of Hell in desperation .

    I believe in God [why the non-believer who wouldn’t bother if I said ‘I believe in porn’ (or in the devil , or in human sacrifice) is upset when I say that and goes out out of his way to prove I’m wrong ,is something I don’t understand .] and I’m very interested [most evolutionists I’ve come across presumed I was not] in science .

    I believe – though it HAS NOT been proven – that a lot of species have evolved over the past millennia . l don’t believe , however , in the whole Theory of Evolution which started with Charles Darwin’s ”On The Origin of Species” . This theory has not been proven as many believe – or the proofs have been well hidden .

    I also think we should not rely neither on God nor on Science to solve some of the problems of our time , the main one being climatic change . We don’t seem to own this planet yet . We will have to clean our own mess and rebuild what we have destroyed.
    This planet does not care about human life – and the Universe care even less .
    We , believers and non-believers , are the only ones who stand to lose . Science will not , as many hope , come up with a providential miracle solution . I believe God could – but I also believe He is nobody’s lackey .

  216. Annabelleon 08 Jun 2011 at 8:44 pm 216

    Look, I’m a Christian, go to church, say my prayers kind of girl. I’ve raised my children to be good Christians too, but nowhere in the Bible does it say that I cannot give them a computer game. In fact, I don’t care whether it teaches them about evolution or not, because when they’re older and trying to decide whether the Lord exists or not, they can make an informed decision.
    If my children, or anyone around me were atheists, Muslims, evolutionists or creationists, I would still love them the same because going to Heaven isn’t about what you believe in, it’s about doing the good deeds written in the Bible, or the Quran or those taught to you by the people around you.
    The world has far larger problems concerning religion than a computer game.